Showing posts with label City. Show all posts
Showing posts with label City. Show all posts

Wednesday, May 13, 2009

A weekend in the City!



There�s a lot you can tell by a name. Honda named their B-segment budget sedan City, much like the urban township which many examples will find home to. Interestingly, this sub-compact, which started life as an ASEAN only model, is also more apt for intra-city/suburb drives than for true inter-state jaunts. Hence its all-telling and meaningful nomenclature?



Into its 3rd generation (as a sedan, the first one was a JDM mini hatch) the City has indeed matured and grown up. External sheet metals are tauter now, with more angular lines and sharper contours. The arrow-form shape is tensibly palpable as visualised from the shot shown above. Neat, smart looking and to a certain extent being copied by Kia's upcoming Cerato Forte.



Step into the new City's cabin, the dashboard, door trim and especially, Honda�s �universal� dish wok steering wheel greets you, conveying a more serious demeanour, more like a junior Civic than an entry-level sedan. The last one was more MPV-ish in nature.



It�s inevitable that the City draw many parallels with the Toyota Vios since both are undeniably competitors in the same segment and in the same price range (within that few thousand ringgit plus or minuses, depending on trim level). Honda�s local chapter has denied that their new offspring is meant to compete head-on with the Vios, not at least in the numbers game. After all, they are not interested in delivering beyond some two thousand units per month from their Melaka Pegoh's assembly plant. As such, waiting period for the 1.5S is averaging about two months while the higher spec 1.5E�s incubation for interested buyers has dragged on to about 4 months. Meanwhile, over at the other camp, the Vios is being Frankenstein-ed with TRD decals, fancy paints plus �sport� accessories. At Toyota showrooms level, there are enticing overtrade, down payment rebates, low interest rates, discounted standard bodykit and the list goes on. Very telling on who is after sales volume in numbers. So, it is a foregone conclusion which model will be the bestseller come end-2009 when the all revealing total sales figures are tallied and released by the Malaysian Automotive Association (MAA).







By now, if you have not fallen asleep with the cold facts above, I supposed most will naturally ask: �So, which is the better car?� While I can�t really tell you with definitive authority � this isn�t a shootout or a comparo at any rate � I can say there is a lot to like about the new City. It�s rather complete for a car that�s sub-RM90k. There are paddle shifters, new 5A/T, decent audio system that interfaces with your i-Pod/MP3 music player and that improved 1.5 i-VTEC with nice on-paper figures. However, it�s more like �Win Some, Lose Some� scenario here.



Things that I missed (my family had an i-DSI City from �03) in the new City are the deeper/taller boot (Honda claims this new one is bigger though at 506 litres), versatile ULTRA seat and double-tiered gloveboxes. The other missing items are proper metal sheet or plastic cladding covering - in the engine bay - at the fenders section bilaterally and the useful green tinted band in the upper section of the front windscreen.



While the seats are supportive enough, I couldn�t ignore the fact that thigh support are shorter aft (versus 2nd gen), for both front seats. Could this be a case of flattering mimicry? If you happen to delve into things a little deeper, you may have noticed that seat trim pattern and overall dark, sombre interior tone also mirrors the Vios somewhat, more so the last 2nd generation model. In the E-grade City, the rear reclinable seat is a nice touch, while the centre foldable armrest with cup holders adds a premium comfort touch for the rear passengers. Interior headroom and overall feeling of space is however a tad more claustrophobic now � with the lower roof, lower seating overall and darker shaded interior.







Driving impression of the new City conveys an overall tighter, solid feel with more positive handling - contributed by the weightier rack, firmer ride and tauter body control. Great if you�re single (or dating) and loving it. Less appropriate if you�re more into wafting comfort and have a young family to pamper. It isn�t exactly Type-R grade stiffness but let's just say this all-new City can be caught by rough tarmac surfaces and sharp ridges at low speed. At other times, it can be as plaint as a cat falling on to a soft pillow.









Going on to highway, I mostly tried my best to keep the 4-pot ticking below 4000rpm. Above this, the i-VTEC powerplant (?intake manifold) bellows an incessant hollow drumming. Sadly atypical of Honda�s previous VTEC motors singing smoothness. In all fairness, the new City does 140km/h with the engine ticking circa 3000rpm. That�s two overdrive gears within the 5A/T working for you I guess. Disappointingly, the high rev �protest� notes were perhaps even a decibel or two higher than my last 8-valve twin spark i-DSI drone at high speed. Once again, this reminded me much of the �T� make�s character, a trait which the latest Vios has toned down quite significantly.







Before returning the tester, the odometer was reading some 410km to the tankful of 42 litres (minus the reserve volume) of benzene laden fuel. While it�s not fair to comment on fuel consumption since more than half the time the car was being pushed quite hard (I didn�t pay attention to the on-board computer figure, my apologies), I reckon that this new City will never be as frugal as the last i-DSI. At best, it will barely match the fuel efficiency of the last VTEC City. Pity it doesn�t have the CVT option like the JDM Honda Fit. This will improve century sprint timings, climbing gradient smoothness as well as improve mileage to the tankful.



So much for our local motoring �enthusiasts� preferring a more spirited feeling or sporty drive, which is afforded by a regular torque converter, according to Honda Malaysia. Maybe, just maybe�these guys should just get a Toyota Vios J manual. It�s light and spirited working the stick shift, rowing thru all 5 forward ratios. In fact, it was lovely to sprint about in one, the last time tested in 2008 as part of the NST-CBT COTY review. And oh! Just in case if that isn�t sporty enough there�s always localised (more affordable?) TRD goodies, to be made available soon, last I heard.







Related posts:



All-new Honda City launched in Malaysia

Driven: Honda Jazz 1.5V Modulo





Thursday, December 18, 2008

2009 Honda City launched in Malaysia

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Honda Malaysia has announced the price of its 3rd generation, all-new City. Available in two grades, the basic 1.5S goes for RM84,980 while the higher-spec 1.5E can be yours for RM89,980 (on-the-road prices with insurance).

Chief differences on the 'E' grade City are paddle shifters, on-steering remote audio controls, fog lamps, split-foldable rear seats with centre armrest plus adjustable headrests and upsized 16" alloy wheels, among other things. Both are however, only available with 5-speed automatic (5A/T) transmission paired to Honda's 1.5L i-VTEC (12ops/145Nm) engine.



The all-new City is more grown-up and mature looking, which is a natural progression of things, as each successor model adds on more bulk and extra dimensions. However, upon closer scrutiny, the 3rd gen City actually has a rather long snout and lengthy frontal overhang (much protuding front bumper), quite atypical for a compact Honda sedan. Remember that "Machine minimum, man maximum" saying? Not a "Terminator" flick movie script or catch phrase but something of Honda's successful formula in car design - and clever packaging - for decades.



Well, maybe Honda engineers were much bent on avoiding a repeat of the stunted profile that resulted much split public opinions over the 2nd gen City (pre-facelift model). For the negative record, it was much criticised to be looking much like a laundry steam-iron, a loaf of bread or even a toad! For historical record - make no mistake - the 2nd generation City 1.5 i-DSI when launched in 2003, created ripples in the local automotive industry. It ruffled up the non-national segment (also a leading national car manufacturer along the way) when it was announced by then Honda Malaysia's MD/CEO, Seiji Kuraishi to be RM78,888 OTR. Many Honda dealers gave a standing ovation, delightfully taken in by surprise. As such, this all-new City will no doubt be a very important product for Honda Malaysia, as affirmed by the current Managing Director and CEO of Honda Malaysia, Atsushi Fujimoto. It is expected to carry on the volume baton worth some 40% of total sales of Honda passenger cars officially sold locally. Honda Malaysia is aiming to deliver 1500 units monthly of the all-new City starting January 2009, out of a total manufacturing capacity of an estimated 35,000 units annually, from its Melaka's Pegoh assembly plant.



Pop the new City's hood and you could actually see the latest i-VTEC (L15) motor 'hanging' loose (as contrasted with the new Jazz) in the centre of the engine bay, sitting just fore of the front axle. There are ample empty spaces both anterior and posterior of the tranverse engine block, more so aft of it extending until the radiator and that 'Optimus Prime' grille. Somewhat wasted space for a B-segment sub-compact. Or was it because of the A-pillar not as forward biased as the new Jazz (and the previous Jazz/City)? Afterall, the 3rd gen City has a completely different bodyshell than its hatchback 'cousin'. Or perhaps some way of conforming to new pedestrian safety standards?



Admittedly, the all-new City is sleek, youthful and sporty ("arrowshot form" in Honda speak) on the outside. Interior wise, it even succeed in elevating its cabin ambience to something more seriously executive than the Jazz, except for maybe the A/C controls or section of the dashboard.







The common-parts bin steering (Civic, Stream, Jazz et al) still looks and feels great after 3 years of debuting in the 8th gen Civic. Interior space is very commendable for a B-segment sedan. Boot volume while class leading at 506 litres, has more wheel humps intrusion now, though still a capacious rump. Speedometer fonts and dials is typical Honda-legible while taking the latest Stream/Accord cues. Engine coolant temperature gauge is still deliberately omitted, not unlike the last City but there is a multifunction info display now, set within the speedometer. First in class for a Japanese 'budget' sedan is the tilt-and-telescopic adjustable steering wheel. Nice and practical additions indeed.




On the other hand, two things that I missed very much in the new City are the split-level, dual glove-boxes and get this: Honda's wonderful ULTRA-seat. I spoke to the Chief Engineer for the all-new City, Takeshi Nakamura and he mentioned that for the overall sleekness and space of boot(?) of the successor, it has been omitted. When I pressed on whether it can be re-introduced in say, the City facelift model after 2-3 years, Honda Malaysia's MD & CEO, Fujimoto-san chipped in to say there are no plans to swap the split-folding back rest (1.5E) with full ULTRA seat capability. I was impressed with their candid replies, pleasantly obliging, especially coming from the head honcho himself, unlike a particular prestige German car manufacturer which has dumb 'protocols', dementious-like persona and snooty attitudes. And I happen to be still driving around in one of their "famed" automobile.




Back to the new City, I feel that the repositioning of the fuel tank to the front (under the front seats) resulting in a usable capacious void under the rear seats aren't well utilised anymore, unlike the last City and the latest Jazz. Pity. Or course there are nice trays and compartments under these seats in the 1.5E model but upon closer inspection of the base 1.5S variant, the rear bench is actually still being supported by tubular frames that are permanently fixed to the floor by fastened slot-in sockets. Remember the ULTRA seats being junked for the 2nd generation City VTEC after its first facelift exercise? Honda Malaysia was quick to reinstate this feature for the VTEC during the subsequent 2nd or 3rd facelift exercise, after consumers of even the VTEC variant wouldn't mind having these useful feature, which will fold out or assemble upright, out of sight, not affecting its interior aesthetics.



During the press conference, many members of the media were quick to ask about the new 5 A/T box in place of the smooth, efficient and refined CVT. Towards this, Nakamura-san (pictured above, seated far right) was equally quick to justify that 5A/T is better suited to the taste and driving habits of fellow Malaysians preferring a "more balanced" performance. While I couldn't really catch what that meant exactly, I guessed Honda Malaysia probably wanted to a better balance between performance, durability and cost, both of manufacturing and maintenance (warranty).

Afterall, it's an open secret among City owners/Honda SCs that the 'old' CVT 'box had some juddering/vibration issues circa 70k - 80k kms of service life, more so with the 2003 batches. Not a big problem as some used car dealer would have you believe e.g. needing RM20k to replace the whole 'gearbox'. Just a starter set (clutch mechanism of some sort) replacement (for less than RM2k) but nevertheless still some monetary cost incurred and possibly, more so, the cost of reliability reputation somewhat dented. I happen to know because I am responsible for the maintenance aspect of my wife's other city runabout, a 2003/04 City i-DSI.

In a larger overview, I reckon that RM2k is worth it over the 5 years of ownership, with excellent fuel efficiency, space, versatility, practicality and flexibity of carting and hauling stuffs that even my last 7th gen Accord 2.0 VTi (or even my current Teutonic executive) can only dream of! Bring back those City moments-defining ULTRA-seats Honda Malaysia!!!





Additional premium features in the new City 1.5E- pictorial highlights:










For more details on the colour schemes, detailed specifications, brochure literature and videos...
go here: www.excitementinthecity.com.my :)

Tuesday, December 16, 2008

All-New Honda City coming (very) soon...


One of the most exciting (and significant for most car buyers) automotive launch, just before the year winds up, must be Honda Malaysia's upcoming all-new City. A full model change that has taken place earlier in Thailand and Singapore, the question mark still remains over how much it will cost to park this 3rd generation sub-compact in your porch or parking bay in 2009...

Watch this blog for the details before the week is over!




In the meantime you may want to read these:
2009 Honda City scooped!
Showdown: 2009 Honda City vs Toyota Vios facelift
Driven: Honda Jazz 1.5V Modulo

For more info:
http://www.excitementinthecity.com.my/



Monday, August 18, 2008

2009 Honda City: September unveiling in Thailand...mid-December 2008 launch in Malaysia?


This is the latest spy-picture of the all-new 2009 Honda City found to be circulating in cyberspace, courtesy of pantip.com
Although sharing the same mechanicals and underpinnings as the soon-to-be-launched new Jazz 1.5i-VTEC (due 20th August in Malaysia), the 3rd generation City Sedan will wear a different set of metal sheets with of course, the all-important boot for our ASEAN market generally. The external door handles seem to be the more 'premium' and ergonomic tug-pull type, unlike its hatchback cousin.




Will Malaysians get to to see the real thing before the year runs out?


Related posts:
Is this the all-new Honda City?
Honda's all-new City coming in December 2008?



Monday, July 28, 2008

Is Honda's all-new City coming in December 2008?


Hearsay from the grapevine seem to suggest a possible 3rd week of December 2008 launching period for Honda Malaysia's all-new City. Possibly one the industry's best kept secret - with no clear spy-shots or detailed scoop to date - this may indeed be the most significant automobile launch before the year wraps up.

Friday, July 11, 2008

Is this the all-new 2009 Honda City?


Spotted on the front cover of Autocar India mag, is a picture of the purportedly next generation Honda City. It is expected to be launched before the year end in India, with a pre-production test unit currently undergoing on-road testing.

Honda's frugal 1.5L twin-spark i-DSI will no longer be seen in the 3rd generation (sedan) Honda City, with possibly 1.3L or 1.5L i-VTEC as available options in Malaysia by Q2 2009. Honda's power efficient CVT will also take a break from the ASEAN market' Jazz/City, with a 5-speed torque converter taking over the tranny job. However, Japan Domestic Market (JDM) Fit will still spin on CVT, albeit now with a torque converter in place of a starter 'clutch' for initial take-off duties.

Wonder what will the Japanese 2009 Honda Fit-Aria (City) have as its driveline?

Monday, August 27, 2007

Another Facelift for Honda City 2007/08!

Honda Malaysia has executed a 3rd facelift for its top-seller, the City for 2007/08. Notable upgrades include a new honeycomb grille, glass-imprinted antenna, wing mirror turn signals, redesigned rear lights and body-coloured mud guards. Mechanically, both the i-DSI and VTEC are similar to the pre-facelift models.



Available in five colours: Sparkle Grey, Bluish Silver, Alabaster Silver Metallic, Nighthawk Black Pearl and Satellite Silver Metallic, the �new� City is available at all Honda dealers with immediate effect.

Prices are (on-the-road inclusive of insurance) RM85,800 for the VTEC and RM79,800 for the i-DSI.

Wednesday, June 13, 2007

Honda City Modulo Special Edition

Honda Malaysia has put up for sale only 120 units of the City Modulo Special Edition. This original body-kitted version of Honda Malaysia�s top-seller City, now sports a sharper-looking front grille, a front bumper lower apron and a rear bumper diffuser. The boot meanwhile gets a top �aero-foil� spoiler.


Side skirts are slapped on as well, wearing an all-telling Modulo emblem to make owners proud and feeling more exclusive. The City Modulo Special Edition is factory-fitted in Melaka and is available only as City VTEC. There are only two colour options - Alabaster Silver and Nighthawk Black.




The whole package of fully-imported Modulo accessories on the City Modulo SE is quoted at around RM7,000 on the open after-market. With this City Modulo Edition, motorist only have to top up RM4k to get the City Modulo Special Edition at RM88,800 OTR (inclusive of road tax and insurance).

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